ADSL 2++
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Author: Uber_deathworld
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Date: July 1, 2006, 9:26 p.m.
Does anybody have an idea if or when we will be getting ADSL2, Because cable & adsl is how do we say.. not quite good enough for me, espically when your downloading files that around 4.7gb 
It is better to die on your feet then to live on your knee's -
Author: Uber_deathworld
Ok well since nobody has a idea, im thinking we wont be getting it at all..
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Date: July 2, 2006, 2:25 p.m.
Rough Notes:
Different modulation. ADSL2 uses a "16-state trellis filter and 1-bit QAM constellation" to improve datarates on high SNR links, Also has Line Bonding for higher data rates
, and variable length framing information, which can be used to reduce overhead in low-performance (<128kbit) connections 
Ahh id only dream on having ADSL2
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Author: robvdl
Yeah, I've read about ADSL2 before, but like you said I have no idea when it's coming to NZ either.
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Date: July 2, 2006, 2:38 p.m.
Has anyone heard about Internet 2 by any chance? At the moment it's still a research project and gets mentioned from time to time on Slashdot when new record speeds have been hit. Last time they were talking about being able to transfer a DVD in under a second, not sure if they meant single or dual layer DVD's, but 4.7Gb/sec is still a dream.
Internet 2 will be the day.
Anyway, hopefully ADSL2 will fix this then: Information on interleaving
Hence, I normally uninstall QoS from the network properties, I'd rather have all packets have the same priority than having my network packets prioritised. I've actually found Telstra cable connections to be a bit more responsive latency wise, maybe it's because of the interleaving Telecom employ on their lines? -
Author: Uber_deathworld
Yes i've heard of internet 2 .. i thought some university in the states were using it as a research project.. or maybe thats something else.. ahh i could imagine downloading at speed of over 1gb per secound... although thing is .. even if we did recive those speeds .. our hardware wouldnt be able to cope a full gig getting slammed down its line.. from what ive seen i aint seen a single ethernet card which would support that .. even over networks you can't transfer that fast ..
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Date: July 2, 2006, 9:39 p.m.
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Author: robvdl
Yeah I know what you're coming from, although you can buy gigabit PCI network cards, the PCI bus can't keep up with the speed the card can run, ironic isn't it.
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Date: July 3, 2006, 12:39 p.m.
How servers go about it, is run specialized 64-bit 133Mhz PCI-X cards (not PCI-Express or PCI-e, which is different)
However, modern motherboards these days have onboard gigabit ethernet, with is capable of reaching those speeds, as it's not limited to the PCI bus. -
Author: Soap Merchant
Its already here for me lol.
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Date: May 12, 2008, 5:55 p.m.
but as for p2p thats a whole other issue.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/270260586.png
sorry don't know how to include forum links yet hehe.
Faster than cable lol.
And set to go even faster once orcon implement VDSL2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDSL2
And to anyone haveing speed issues on orcons network the word is it mainly affects new customers, this is cause they are puting in a new major international line, which they say will once all these issues are resolved will result in even faster speeds
So if you thinking of going to the competition my advice is stick with them for just a little longer, you wouldn't want to miss out on IPTV would you
As for p2p, some of you may notice even those not on orcon that from 12pm till about 6-8am your torrent speeds forinstance are much better.
as far as im aware orcon and prob a number of other isps don't throttle anymore and haven't for sometime.
I think telecom are still f-ing throttling, by why this is i don't know. I spoke to someone who is on orcon and they said it takes them 3 hours to download a big file via BT where as they can go to there friends house and it takes little over 30min no matter what time of day. And i can even comment on this myself as last night i was downloading a file with around 10 seeds and geting well over 100kbs which is really a bit crap but today roughly the same ammount of seeds and peers and geting under 50kbs. so more than halfed (btw it was the same torrent not a new one)
So not meaning to be sounding a bit negative but if you decide to go with telecom for isp don't expect great things. my 10 cents.
