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  1. Author: (Shane) Ubuntu
    User type: Administrator
    Posts: 67
    Date: June 18, 2006, 6:07 p.m.

    Mozilla Firefox is a free, alternative web browser to Internet Explorer. It has been around for a while now, and has gained a lot of popularity lately. “Faster, Safer, Better” is Firefox's new tagline, and it definately lives upto that name. Ynui Technology highly recommends users should at least try out Firefox, we know you'll love it. :-)

    Why should I switch from Internet Explorer, and why Firefox?

    There are many reasons to switch to Firefox, but the number one reason is spyware. You may or may not have heard of spyware, but this is the number one problem on the internet today. To put it short, spyware is advertising software that installs on your computer without your knowledge and bombards you with popup advertisements.

    The bad thing, Internet Explorer has a major security flaw that allows spyware to install automatically on a users computer without their knowledge. This makes the infected system run very slow, crash a lot, and constantly generate popup advertisements.

    Firefox offers the following features:

    • Tabbed browsing (Most people find this a very useful feature)
    • Built in popup blocker
    • Built in google search
    • Much faster than IE
    • Supports extensions (Install extensions into Firefox to enhance it's functionality)
    • Better standards support (The Ynui site actually works better in Firefox than IE)
    • Improved security against spyware and viruses


    Why not give Firefox a go. You've got nothing to lose, Internet Explorer remains on your system, so you can go back any time. However you may not even want to go back, after you have tried it.

    Note: Firefox will prevent new spyware from installing on your system, however if your system is already infected with spyware, this will need to be cleaned out as well. We can help you remove the spyware from your computer.

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  2. Author: robvdl
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    Posts: 67
    Date: June 19, 2006, 2:04 p.m.

    Here's a neat little trick on how you can speed up Firefox even more:

    Firefox supports a technology called HTTP pipelining, but it's disabled by default. HTTP pipelining can download a web page and it's images all at the same time, using multiple HTTP threads or ‘pipelines’. This greatly speeds up page loading, especially on broadband connections.

    However, it's a ‘hidden’ feature at the moment, not quite sure why. It's completely safe to use… I have used it for around a year without problems now.

    To turn this feature on, go to the special built in URL about:config using Firefox. In the ‘filter’ field, type ‘network.http’ to filter the list down a bit, then change the following settings:

    network.http.max-connections = 48
    network.http.max-connections-per-server = 24
    network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-proxy = 12
    network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server = 6
    network.http.pipelining = true
    network.http.pipelining.maxrequests = 8
    network.http.proxy.pipelining = true


    Do not try to set these any higher than the above values. Any more and you may
    get banned from the site visited, as it may be viewed as DoS (Denial of Service) attack. Using HTTP pipelining with the above settings is perfectly safe, just don't set them any higher than these values really. ;-)

    Note: HTTP pipelining is supported by Firefox only, IE doesn't support it. If HTTP pipelining is enabled, it will give Firefox even more of an edge over IE. :mrgreen:

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  3. Author: Keith
    User type: Standard User
    Posts: 67
    Date: June 20, 2006, 6:55 p.m.

    Hi
    I have try FireFox but did not like it as it stuff up some of the webpage I look at :cry:
    I even had to change my webpage so if ppl are useing Firefox to view it. It would look ok.
    I still think FireFox has a lot of bugs in it but beside that I think it better than IE (by the way I always use IE).

    Keith.

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  4. Author: robvdl
    User type: Administrator
    Posts: 67
    Date: June 20, 2006, 9:23 p.m.

    Keith said:

    I have tried FireFox but did not like it as it stuff up some of the webpage I look at :cry:

    I even had to change my webpage so if ppl are using Firefox to view it. It would look ok.


    This is not actually Firefox's fault, but actually IE's fault, if you were to do some research and looked deeper into the problem, you would have found this… There is a web standards board called the W3C. The W3C invent and control all the standards of all the internet technologies we use, HTML, XHTML, XML, CSS, XSLT, DOM and so on… they have done so for years. Microsoft DO NOT control or invent these web standards in any way.

    Some webpages do not view very well in Firefox, because Firefox has better web standards support and renders HTML very accurate to the standard. The problem lies ACTUALLY in that IE is the one not displaying the page correctly, however a lot of site developers are unaware of the problem, or that web standards even exist, and only test in IE (which is totally what not to do). What they are in fact doing is unknowingly exploiting or making use of old IE6 rendering bugs, and outputting non-standard HTML, not even knowing they are doing this. Then assuming IE is rendering the page correctly.

    What's the problem in doing this? Your page may not work properly in:

    • IE7 - coming up soon! - which will fix some rendering bugs, so pages WILL break!
    • Firefox
    • Opera
    • Netscape 7
    • Camino (Mac)
    • Konqueror (Linux)
    • Safari (Mac)


    The problem is that if you use specific wysiwyg HTML editors, especially Front Page or MS Word to generate websites, these editors are really bad and output very, very sloppy non-standard HTML code, I am sorry to say so, but this is the truth. If you are going to use wysywig tools to make websites, you are much better off using Dreamweaver, at least this program creates standards-compliant HTML code.

    If you were to do some research in the field, you would find out that there are two distinct modes in which a browser can render a webpage.

    • Standards compliance mode
    • Quirks mode


    In Quirks mode, the browser doesn't know what sort of webpage it is at all, or what version HTML it is, and because of that it will TRY to emulate old browser bugs as found in previous versions of IE, that's right… it will TRY and emulate bugs to the best of it's knowledge, to make sure the page views ok.

    In Standards compliance mode, the browser knows that the webpage contains up-to-date XHTML code and turns on it's strict rendering engine. Standards compliance mode shows webpages according to the standard… and to the letter. This allows webpages to look consistent across different browsers… THAT is why standards have been developed in the first place, to try to STOP this cross browser incompatibility mess.

    The browser knows which rendering mode to use, Quirks or Standards compliance mode, by checking the DTD, or Document Type Descriptor at the top of the document. If the document contains NO DTD, or an older type of DTD, it will switch on Quirks mode:

    • NO DTD specified at all
    • <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC “-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN”>
    • <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC “-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN” "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">


    Remember in Quirks mode, the page will try to emulate old browser bugs in Firefox, or Opera, etc. Unfortunately your website does not have a DTD at all, so the browser doesn't know what kind of webpage it is at all, so chooses to display it in Quirks mode. If you were to say use Dreamweaver, this would have been ok, as Dreamweaver puts in a proper DTD - Front Page does not.

    The browser will run in Standard compliance mode, if it sees one of the following DTDs:


    You can find out in Firefox what mode a page is being rendered in, by right clicking on a page, then selecting “Page Info”, it will either say Quirks mode, or Standard Compliance mode.

    The Ynui website uses an XHTML 1.1 DTD, which is the most strict DTD you can use, this ensures the page works properly in any browser. However, you can't just throw in a DTD and assume the page will render properly either, the page also has to contain proper valid XHTML markup and validate, and XHTML is very strict to work with. This is a good thing however, as once again it ensures the page will view 100% in all browsers.

    If you run the Ynui site through a validator, you get 0 errors, you will also notice that the site is extremely small, only 2k of HTML for the homepage, and it's extremely tidy. This makes it very fast on modems. It also uses the same CSS file for all the pages on the site, which gets cached, making it even faster for modems.

    Unfortunately if you were to run your site through the validator it wouldn't pass, because the first error would already stop it, saying it's missing a DTD. It will try and attempt to validate it anyway, using the lowest common denominator, HTML 4 Transitional, it will still have 91 errors. If you were to validate it as XHTML 1.1 it has 571 errors. No wonder Firefox has problems displaying the site, it's not even error free.. The size of the homepage is also 35K just for the HTML, and a lot more complex. This is the downside of using Front Page, it just doesn't generate very clean or compatible code.

    Now this figure WOULD have been a lot less if Dreamweaver was used, I can't stress enough how good this program is compared to Front Page. The web has moved on, and because of the amount of Spyware that installs with IE, a lot of people are moving over to Firefox and aren't switching back anymore. Alternative browsers will become more and more popular… it's inevitable, and the need for web standards will only get greater. Already 25% of the web use Firefox now, that's up 10% since last year, and it's STILL climbing. People are just fed up with spyware and popups.

    It's better to embrace web standards and make sure your site uses them, so it will work anywhere, rather than going against them and only supporting IE. Also Firefox has a “report broken website” tool under help, in which users can report non-standard websites to Mozilla. Mozilla will then send the owner of the site a friendly reminder to make their site standards-compliant. One site at a time is the only way to converting the web towards full standards compliance, and browser neutrality.

    I'm sorry if this message may sound a bit strong or over descriptive in places, but as a devoted Firefox and web-standards fan, it is not good either being told that Firefox contains bugs, when this is the exact opposite in reality, and IE (or more like Front Page) being the culprit really, just that people are unaware of web standards and will blame Firefox for doing the right thing (by supporting web standards) really gets me sometimes.

    Keith said:

    I still think FireFox has a lot of bugs in it but beside that I think it better than IE (by the way I always use IE).


    So I hope that you will now understand this a lot better, and see that it is not Firefox that is rendering these pages incorrectly, but IE not adhering to the standard instead.

    I am not sure how difficult it would be to make your site standards compliant, but since it uses “tables for layout”, you should at least try and make it compatible with HTML 4 strict if you can, even if you have to open each page in Dreamweaver and resave it, Dreamweaver will cleanup a lot of the non-standard code that Front Page has inserted. But you may need to do some tidying up after.

    The best way to develop websites if you're not a programmer is:

    • Use Dreamweaver - ditch Front Page
    • Test, test, test. Test in Firefox, then Opera, and LAST test in IE
    • Never test in IE first, that's the wrong way. IE is the most non-standard of the lot!
    • Validate every page if you can
    • If you can't afford Dreamwaver, NVU is FREE and standards-compliant


    And last, but not least, you said:

    I have tried FireFox but did not like it as it stuff up some of the webpage I look at :cry:


    Now that you know that Firefox is not really at fault, you might want to reconsider. Don't worry, there's a Firefox extension called IE Tab, which allows you to run specific sites in a tab using an embedded IE. You can program certain “non-standard” sites to always open in an embedded IE tab, the other websites will still use the Firefox rendering engine, it's practically transparent.

    And if you find such a broken site, Report it to Mozilla, using the tool in the help menu. I haven't come across a broken site for ages, but it highly depends on the type of sites you visit. The more sites that get reported, the better it will be for all other Firefox users.

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  5. Author: (Shane) Ubuntu
    User type: Administrator
    Posts: 67
    Date: June 20, 2006, 11:15 p.m.

    Very interesting regarding your opinion Rob! Personally I didn't realise about web standards until you educated me about them a couple of years ago. Since then I have grown to become a strong Firefox supporter from my own curiosity in time geared up with my new incite into web technology.

    I especially find the bundled features that come mandatory with Firefox hard to live without:

    • Tabbed browsing - Use tabbed browsing to open multiple Web pages in a single browser window, and quickly flip back and forth. Drag and drop open tabs to keep related pages together.
    • Integrated Search - Tap into the power of the Web’s most popular search engines with the built-in Search bar, and easily add new engines.
    • Automatic Updates - The new Software Update feature makes it easy to get the latest security and feature updates to Firefox. Firefox automatically downloads these small updates in the background and prompts you when they are ready to be installed.
    • Faster Browsing - Enjoy quick page loading as you navigate back and forward in a browsing session. Improvements to the engine that powers Firefox deliver more accurate display of complex Web sites, support for new Web standards, and better overall performance.
    • Improved Pop-up Blocking - Firefox’s built-in pop-up blocker has been enhanced to block more unwanted pop-up and pop-under ads.
    • Stronger Security - Firefox keeps you more secure when you’re browsing the Web, closing the door on spyware, worms, and viruses. The Firefox community of developers and security experts works around the clock to monitor security issues and release updates to better protect you.
    • Clear Private Data - Protect your privacy with the new Clear Private Data tool. With a single click, you can delete all personal data, including browsing history, cookies, Web form entries and passwords.
    • Accessibility - Firefox 1.5 delivers easier navigation for everyone, including those who are visually or motor-impaired. Firefox is the first browser to support DHTML accessibility, which, when enabled by Web authors, allows rich Web applications to be read aloud. Users may navigate with keystrokes rather than mouse clicks, reducing the tabbing required to navigate documents such as spreadsheets. Firefox 1.5 (Windows version) is also the first browser to meet US federal government requirements that software be easily accessible to users with physical impairments.


    Just to elaborate on the points mentioned in the original post. If you do experience issues as Rob mentions in his comment regarding webpages not working with web standards, you can install a Firefox extension called IE Tab, that way you can still visit websites viewed better with IE (Internet Explorer) only because of IE's lack of web standards.

    Who invented the Internet? and happens to also be the Director of the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C)? Checkout: Sir Timothy J Berners-Lee

    Checkout Firefox Cheat Sheet for shortcuts, tips and tricks.

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  6. Author: robvdl
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    Posts: 67
    Date: June 21, 2006, 1:04 a.m.

    Yeah I agree, I realise that the last comment I added was probably quite strong, I just didn't like seeing Firefox being put down for rendering pages incorrectly, when the culprit is actually FrontPage 2003 creating the non-standard HTML which only works with IE.

    Keith, I know this by looking at the source, sorry:

    <meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 6.0">


    A lot of people that use FrontPage use it for it's simplicity, that is one of it's strong points, it has built in templates which are supposed to make editing your website very easy, but it's downside is clearly that it generates bad code, every web developer that has ever had to fix or cleanup a FrontPage generated site knows this.

    I checked up on FrontPage in the Wikipedia, and found out that FrontPage 2003 is the last version Microsoft are releasing, then it will be split up into two products (as of 2007):


    I'm not sure which will be the one to get to replace FrontPage, but it looks like it might be Microsoft SharePoint Designer 2007, if you want the template support that FrontPage had, both programs claim they will support XML, XHTML and CSS 2.1.

    But how good this will be remains to be seen. Microsoft have a history of claiming the next FrontPage will be standards compliant (they said this for 2003, but it never did). For a starter, looking at the screenshot of Microsoft Expression Web Designer on Wikipedia, I can already see one major bug/incompatibility issue with XHTML “All HTML tags are in capitals” (XHTML doesn't even allow tags to be in capitals).

    Keith, I don't know FrontPage that well, as I work by hand in PHP. But you could add a HTML 4.0 Strict DTD at the start of every page (see my previous comment), and do a mass replace of:

    <BR> = <br />
    <HR> = <hr />
    <B> = <strong>
    </B> = </strong>
    <I> = <em>
    </I> = </em>


    Also, all HTML tags, and all tag attributes must be in lower case, and images must have an end slash, e.g. <IMG SRC=“blah.gif”> becomes <img src=“blah.gif” /> (I know, this will probably take ages though). Run it through the validator to test.

    That will reduce the errors a bit for a starter, but being FrontPage generated it will need a lot more work than that, such as all <FONT> tags should be replaced with CSS, maybe it's best to wait for Microsoft SharePoint Designer 2007, then make the whole site standards-compliant from there.

    I realise that swithcing to NVU or Dreamweaver (although both are much better with web standards) isn't really an option if you already use FrontPage's themes, because FrontPage themes kind of ‘locks’ you to FrontPage, where you can't really switch to something else anymore, unless you redo the whole site (not that I am implying this at all), which is a lot of work off course.

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  7. Author: Keith
    User type: Standard User
    Posts: 67
    Date: June 22, 2006, 9:55 p.m.

    You might be right but why would you want to view a webpage thats stuff up with Firefox when you can view the page 100% with IE. Will not untell all the webpage are 100% with all of them, I will keep useing IE and you can stuff all the rest of them to..

    I go on the Internet to look at webpager IE shows them ok FireFox does not so what would you use..

    IE might not be 100% like you said but you do get every webpage looking right and the the stuff up one like you do with FireFox..

    and as I can see FireFox is ####..

    Keith

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  8. Author: robvdl
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    Posts: 67
    Date: June 22, 2006, 11:20 p.m.

    I'm sorry, but what's the point trying to criticise or argue a point you don't even appear to understand yourself. I just clearly explained that Firefox is a standards compliant browser and it has NO problems with proper standards compliant websites, only ‘some’ broken or incompatible websites. I even recommended people could us a plugin to still view non standards compliant sites within Firefox.

    We are trying to HELP people by freeing them from a very SERIOUS problem here: Spyware. People using IE get infected EVERY DAY, simply by browsing the net, and this is happening all behind their backs. People get personal information stolen, such as bank details right under their noses from using IE! I have cleaned thousands of PC's from this junk, and I am not exaggerating at all here. There are so many security holes in IE that it's just not considered safe anymore.

    Source: Browse Happy
    Source: US Government warns against using Internet Explorer
    Source: Bugs, Exploits Dog XP SP2
    Source: Security risks swell for Microsoft's Explorer

    Don't get me wrong here, but I don't even like having to talk like this at all. We are all about helping people here, but if we constantly get critisised for just about everything we post here, being told that Firefox is sh## and not even knowing the real facts, being told that the games we recommend here are no good and contain spyware, without even checking the facts first. Please stop the flaming if that's the case.

    I don't even like saying this, but if you keep telling our visitors that Firefox contains bugs, when it's in fact your site that contains 91 errors, I practically keep having to bring this back up. The fact is that your website contains bugs, and non-standard, incompatible code, that's why doesn't show correctly in Firefox. I tried to help explain the issues with FrontPage, I even appologised for my first post, and I just keep getting flamed again.

    Check out the bug page on positioniseverything.net to see just how many rendering bugs IE contains! and they're all really bad ones. Now consider the same bug page for Firefox, there are only two errors here and guess what, they have long been fixed, it's an old page. So I am saying this once again, it's IE that contains the rendering bugs, sorry.

    187 MILLION downloads can't be wrong. Point made.

    Please stop the Firefox flaming, because I do not want our readers to be confused anymore by any misleading posts. If you don't want to use Firefox, that's fine with me, just don't tell our customers to not use it, I don't want them to be mislead.

    Rather than talking like this, why can't we just accept that yes, the site does contain errors, but I can actually help fix these errors, and maybe learn a bit from this.

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  9. Author: Winston
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    Posts: 67
    Date: June 23, 2006, 12:17 a.m.

    Geez, how bad was the reply for it to get deleted? It didn't sound to me as any sort of personal attack - unless the deleted poster was very precious about his code! :roll:

    Moving along, another mac-centric post, one of the reasons that had stopped me using Firefox on Mac was that it never really felt like a ‘Mac’ program, great explanation there, but mac users are a strange bunch.

    Some great themes from Aronnax can help. As well Optimized Firefox 1.5 for G4, G5, and Intel.

    Posted on the remote chance that a reader might be using a Mac. Which highly unlikely!

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  10. Author: robvdl
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    Date: June 23, 2006, 12:51 a.m.

    Ok, it's been put back, but I did think it was kind of personal as I had decoded it (it was a little hard to read). He did say Firefox was sh## to the general public without a solid backing/reason, which I was not too keen on. I am trying to help Windows users get rid of Spyware (Obviously this is not an issue on the Mac), and that sort of posting doesn't help.

    Obviously the users website, which is created in FrontPage is not standards compliant (and maybe some other FrontPage sites he visits too) and he did not quite understand that it was his website being the issue. I probably overwhelmed him a little with facts, I mean he actually uses FrontPage off course, so we have to be a little easy here. I would rather not argue about this sort of nonsense, and rather help the guy fix his site. It would be a wise choice for the both of us.

    About Firefox for Mac, that theme looks really good ;-). To be honest it doesn't matter at all what browser you're using, that's not upto us anyway. We are only trying to educate people that hey, Firefox exists, it's standards compliant, and doesn't have the Spyware issues IE has. It doesn't matter if you use Firefox, Opera, Camino, or Safari, all are 100% standards compliant, just IE isn't.

    Hey, by the way, Camino 1.0.2 is out

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  11. Author: (Shane) Ubuntu
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    Posts: 67
    Date: June 23, 2006, 2:11 a.m.

    Wow makes me wonder about my post! I didn't know that I was going to cause a problem expressing only opinions! Just got home and read about the drama, man that's a head banger.

    Anyway looks like Keith is sticking to his guns and so he should it's his opinion, anyway this is an interesting post and Rob you have some very interesting points it's good to see you have elaborated regarding your opinions that helps people like myself to try to understand your view point.

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  12. Author: ☼│oooOMagnum233Oooo│☼
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    Posts: 67
    Date: June 23, 2006, 4:57 a.m.

    HI, well i tend to agree with rob. I feel that Firefox is a good browser for avoiding spyware and such things for pcs.

    I have had a number of problems over the years with IE in relation to spyware and i know firefox avoids much of these. Its great, can view questionable site with no problems. Ofcourse as long as your runing good firewall and not (in my view) rubbish built in windows firewall.

    Also the next line of defence is to have good solutions to remove the spyware if you think you are infected. I use Adaware SE personal (this is the free one)

    here is a link http://www.lavasoft.de/software/adaware/

    also spybot search and destroy is a good one go here

    http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html

    and lastly check this one out, great little programe i found which helped me identify a fake windows explorer that was runing, or in otherwords something that gave people access to my computer remotely.

    http://www.malwhere.com/

    oh, malwhere is completely free as are the other apps.

    and one more thing that might help, if you are looking for a GOOD free virus scanner that does the whole lot, IM, web browser scaning, emails etc then go here:

    http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html

    This scanner will give you something like a few months access then you have to register, but dont worry registration is absolutely free. And they DONT spam you as i know from experience. All you have to do is register by giveing them one of your email address's and they will send you fully legit reg code which lasts for a whole year. after the year you simple re-register for another year. what could be better? The registration is effectively free for life. just have to re-doit at end of each year period. Go here to read about this.

    http://www.avast.com/i_kat_207.php?lang=ENG

    I currently use firefox, for some things, like if i visit sites that may potentially have something on them. and i use IE now mainly to view my hotmail. as I am yet to find out a way to link hotmail into outlook express (im lazy lol, cant be bothered opening up firefox for hotmail, would rather let msnm just do it for me :)

    Im not a code freak and java and php arn't my thing. Hardware and Support are. But i know what i know, and trust me when i say that i have had very few problems with firefox.

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  13. Author: robvdl
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    Posts: 67
    Date: June 23, 2006, 2:22 p.m.

    Well, I realise that my first post was strong, and did sorta point the finger here, as I felt Firefox was blamed without good reason. But it didn't have to be quite like this, I could have explained it a bit nicer. I did change my tune after the second post, to actually try to help guide to fix it. Then I changed my tune again with my third post and so on. I can't stress enough, that I would rather help fix the issue, lend my skills out, people could learn a bit, which I believe is always a good thing.

    The site isn't even that bad in Firefox at all, I can view it perfectly fine, he just happened to bring it up. The only little glitch I can see is maybe the right margin is not to the edge of the page, but that's nothing, I'd actually like to help guide to fix it instead, I believe that would be the best resolution for all of us and we all learn here. It doesn't have to be fixed if he doesn't want to, it works ok as is.

    You have to realise that everyone in a public Forum has their own opinion, if someone is trying to promote something, which they believe or know is really good, and they get told it's not, you've gotta come up with a reason why off course. I've been in the same boat myself, and there's nothing really that can be done about it, just have to be careful what to post. For example, when I was having some problems with a website not working very well with Opera 8 back in the day, I criticised Opera for having bugs in their Forum, but they checked my code, and just bummed me out. Nothing I can do about it, that stuff is indexed for life. The thing is, I learned from my mistakes, fixed my code, and started posting positive stuff in the Opera forums. I now fully support Opera 8 and 9 with the Ynui site and any future sites.

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  14. Author: robvdl
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    Date: June 23, 2006, 3:03 p.m.

    magnum233, I use Trillian for my IM, it handles MSN, ICQ, Yahoo + more. If you check your hotmail with Trillian, it correctly opens it with what you set as your default browser, in my case Firefox. MSN messenger is ok, but it does have a habit of disobeying the “default browser” setting of the system, and will always open your hotmail with IE.

    Trillian does everything for me, and means I don't have to run 3 chat programs, I can have it all in one place. It doesn't support every little feature of MSN, like winks or whatever they use, but I'm not really fussed with those. I like Trillian myself. ;-)

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  15. Author: Winston
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    Date: June 23, 2006, 3:45 p.m.

    Sorry Rob, I actually mean't your post didn't sound personal, didn't get the chance to view the posters message before it was gone.

    But yeah, sites made in the professional world, like banks, and big name companies should really start to design their sites with standards in mind. A lot don't, which is why many people are put off Firefox and the like.

    Although personally, I cant remember the last time I came across a site that wouldn't display properly in a standards browser, a few years ago yes, but not lately.

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  16. Author: robvdl
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    Date: June 23, 2006, 5:02 p.m.

    Another two good extensions for Firefox are Adblock Plus and Filterset.G Updater (Don't get the older extension just called “Adblock” as I found this one has some problems).

    Anyways, Adblock Plus allows you to block most annoying banner advertisements on websites, it also blocks a lot of flash advertisements. You can add your own filters for ads you want to block, either by putting the URL's to the ads straight in, or if you're confident with regular expressions, it also supports these.

    Filterset.G has to be used in conjunction with Adblock Plus, what this extension does, is download an excellent set of filters for ads to block with Adblock Plus at a weekly basis. This way you don't really have to program the filters in yourself.

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  17. Author: (Shane) Ubuntu
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    Date: June 25, 2006, 3:09 p.m.

    Well the lesson learnt from this post is to to respect other peoples opinions and not to become personal! We each have the right to our own opinions and to come on to strong, will not let anyone win! My view point is that, if you don't agree with someone else's opinion it's best to guide them to why you believe your opinion to be correct, than to push them into believing your opinion. Nobody likes been pushed, well thats my opinion anyway.

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